uneek
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Post by uneek on Aug 14, 2008 20:41:19 GMT -5
As you saw from Main's observations from VMLB to the actual MLB we average about twice as many steals as the MLB does. I don't think we should put a limit on how many stolen bases can be attempted each game. I think many of us can agree that it is far too easy to steal on this game than in real life, so for that I have a proposal.
We make a rule so no second lead can be made. You can only lead what they give you and not another step. I think this will limit the amount of stolen bases attempted, which will lower the amount of stolen bases total. I'm the first to admit that I take advantage of the stolen base to its fullest (leading every season in stolen bases), and I think this will be a great rule to implement. Thoughts?
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Post by chiefcq15 on Aug 14, 2008 20:49:25 GMT -5
I can see where you're coming from. The only thing I don't like about your proposal is that what if the pitcher doesn't even give you enough time to take a normal lead? But then again, that's why we have a rule for pitchers to make sure they allow a normal lead.
Maybe we should just have a limit on our stolen base attempts. (Kinda like our limit on Bunts) Maybe 3 successful stolen bases a game. Or 5 attempts total (both successful and unsuccessful) Maybe instead of just straight steals we turn them into Hit-and-runs. I dont know...I'm talking bubbles already...
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Post by uneek on Aug 14, 2008 20:59:21 GMT -5
Well the pitcher is required to wait for the runner to get his lead. And if we change it to just the normal lead with no extra step (pressing L1) then I think it will cut down the attempts along with the stolen bases. Because I can steal bases with just about everyone on my team with ease, exception of Johjima and maybe LaHair. From my catcher, Clement, to Ibanez I can steal all day. I think all my caught steals this year have been on correct pitchouts.
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Post by xLiQx on Aug 14, 2008 21:51:23 GMT -5
You have to put a limit on the amount of steals that are attempted if you plan on making it realistic, it is damn near impossible to throw anyone out even if you pitch out and know its coming. I think putting a steal rule in is the only way to go, no reason we have a bunt rule and not a steal rule, same exact reasoning. I know I steal alot, and I do it cause I have a very fast team, in fact one of the fastest in the AL last year, stat wise. But I have played guys who attempt to FLAT out steal some of the slower guys on their teams, it's different if its a hit and run and you miss, but a steal like that isn't quite realistic.
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Post by uneek on Aug 15, 2008 1:12:26 GMT -5
That's why I said not allowing the extra step. That won't give most runners that needed extra step to steal a base? How many times have you almost thrown a guy out when he looked out but he was still safe? I know it's happened to me a decent amount of times, enough to want to not allow people to not be able to take that extra lead.
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Post by xLiQx on Aug 15, 2008 10:21:35 GMT -5
The extra step shouldn't matter, why should i be punished for taking 3rd base on a ball hit to right cause of "extra step rule"? Just put a rule in for steal attempts, shouldn't be a problem to do that, we did it for the bunt rule and it worked, you could make the max attempts 5, you would have to include hit and runs as well though,c ause you will get guys missing the ball and getting a stolen base.
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Post by TheMainEvent on Aug 15, 2008 14:49:59 GMT -5
i personally like uneeks idea most, you don't have to track anything anymore, you just know your not allowed to take a lead (i say on first base only, if you wanna take a lead on 2nd, by all means go for it, cause stealing 3rd is hard as fuck) it'd def. take down the steal totals, i'd prolly only steal on counts realistic to baseball, and i can only think of 1 maybe 3 if im being generous, players i'd be willing to do that with, just like real life. Looks like we have a split between 4 of us on opinion, but thats good, we have options to vote on come end of season
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Post by scholt31 on Aug 15, 2008 21:23:35 GMT -5
i agree, i dont like the idea of limiting other stuff by #'s. some teams are more built for munufacture runs(steal, hit and run etc). definitely not my team, but like uneek and i talked after our stolen base fest-series cutting out the 2nd step should be enough.
although in virtual i didnt even get the 1st step lead off and was still able to steal..
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Post by xLiQx on Aug 15, 2008 22:20:04 GMT -5
exactly, its not going to change anything at all, people will still steal like crazy.
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Post by TheMainEvent on Aug 15, 2008 22:27:22 GMT -5
no they won't. if your willing to steal without a step u got some ballz, ill only do it with rios or in a good count for a possible hit and run
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